Curse

Spirit Cookie · Apr 20, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44

lol stupid comp lags, sry

Cassandra · Apr 20, 2007, 12:42 PM // 12:42

I for sure, for the very first time in 2 years, start to consider appealing putting up a bot.

Farming can be nice, and it was a nice and enjoyable thing to do.

Now I need 8x the time to get the same money.....
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hmmm let's see if I can learn something about scripts.....

buzzerman · Apr 20, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrengordon

True mate very valid point, its taken a lot of practice to do the farms i do and they aint easy. I agree for the average farmer who just farms for the odd 1-5k hour then this is probably gona suck if they cant come up with a build that will work in hard mode. All of the builds i use will be just the same in hard or easy mode.
Mind you try trapping its silly easy and should still work fine in hard mode.

I am afraid you're either lying or simply not knowing how the previous farms worked..

I tried two known mob farms (Zelnehlun's group and "Battle of Turai's Procession" margonites) in both Normal and Hard mode and the drops are way down AND they really suck in both Normal and Hard modes.

I find it OUTRAGEOUS to get only one stupid non-max (!) white bow and 111 gold coins in Hard mode after I solo killed a lvl26 group with a lvl30 boss (Zelnehlun's group in Hard mode).

I got similar reports from my guildies about trapping in Stygian Veil.

Unless they patch it again, solo farming is actually dead now.. And Hard mode loot is just not worth the effort, currently.

RebelHero · Apr 20, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

I have always been bitching my roommate that plays WoW. Me and 2 other roommates play GW... but ANet just destroyed GW for me. New items is my main reason to buy GWEN, new areas to find solo builds for, new sets of armor. But now its almost unattainable. If ANet doesnt fix this, I will lose whatever faith remaining in ANet and prove my roommate right, WoW>GW... and I dont think that's what ANet wants...

sixchr · Apr 20, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Just did Margonite farming on Normal and Hard, 4 Henchies/Heroes. I got a total of 6 drops in both during the whole run.

Pickletron · Apr 20, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06

What about all the posts saying "Guild Wars is for casual gamers".
I liked being able to get an ecto or 2 in a few minutes without having to spend all my time looking for 7 other people willing to clear the UnderWorld.

I'm very upset with this new loot system but there's nothing we can do, whining about it won't help anything, nor will "STOP CRYING AND GTFO" posts.

Witte Was · Apr 20, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

"Loot now scales according to party size"

-GuildWars.com

Farming will never be dead. We get less loot? We have to farm more efficient finding faster and better ways to make money. I take the challenge.

bored-.-bored · Apr 20, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12

Go Witte we need some builds ^^

Dronte · Apr 20, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Good luck. I think it wont take a long time to find out something.

Vahn Roi · Apr 20, 2007, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Solo farmers will be hurting, but 4-man farming groups will still see action me thinks.

Ruphfus · Apr 20, 2007, 02:15 PM // 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witte Was

"Loot now scales according to party size"

-GuildWars.com

Farming will never be dead. We get less loot? We have to farm more efficient finding faster and better ways to make money. I take the challenge.

Agree. Few of my guildies and I took some of our farming characters to different spots, In Proph, havent tried other campaigns yet. We did it in hard mode, all solo, and we all got the same results...

Every monster didn't drop loot, but on average 1/3 or 1/2 did, and when they did it was way better than the loot dropped in normal mode soloing.

2 Golds, a Black Dye, 2 Purples, and 1.7k in gold after one 15 minute run. In a very remote location in Proph. No mission or quest take you here, there is an outpost, and the farming is easy. Monsters are now level 24. heh.

Use your brains people, in hard mode, monsters that were level 12, are now level 24, you can farm places that were pointless before, but mad easy.

Selor · Apr 20, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witte Was

"Loot now scales according to party size"

-GuildWars.com

Farming will never be dead. We get less loot? We have to farm more efficient finding faster and better ways to make money. I take the challenge.

GL Witte, if anyone can do it, it'll be you.

Zeph · Apr 20, 2007, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Farming is in no way dead, not by any means.

In 10mins, while having a quick test of hard mode in my lunch break, 3 of us made 100k between us. If farming being dead = 100k in 10mins between 3, then that's fine with me.

There are so many things which are good about this update and I'm looking forward to farming more than ever.

dark_slayer · Apr 20, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31

Good news Me and my guildy just duo FOW hard mode with fire ele/bonder, and 95% of drops droped for us. It was ez and we got a cupple of golds and 6 shards. We went 50/50, hope this helps

ArKaiN · Apr 20, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

OMG I dont get 150 items a run! Its not pathetically easy to get millions in gold! Waah /quit game!!1111!!11
....or maybe realize the game isn't about just getting more and more stuff.
Yes, prices on rare items go up. Yes, its harder to get filthy rich now. So what.

P A L P H R A M O N D · Apr 20, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witte Was

"Loot now scales according to party size"

-GuildWars.com

Farming will never be dead. We get less loot? We have to farm more efficient finding faster and better ways to make money. I take the challenge.

This is the only sensible response I have seen, lol. Just because it makes less money with the old methods doesn't mean solo farming is gone, and frankly, I am unbearably excited to try and trap or Rit my way through GW to get Vanquisher, better drops, more exp for skill points, etc. Hard mode looks to be a blast to try and solo, and from what I hear, people are getting amazing drops.

BoondockSaint · Apr 20, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58

I personally am disappointed that they did this, and I never complain! But I guess we can all move on heres my suggestion.

So now loot is scaled right, well heres what i did, remember this is just an idea of maybe a new farming method,

I went to napi mission on hard mode (were the celestials are) and killed all but one celestial. Theres this one spot were many spawn at a given time. I set me heros to be self-sufficent and just went and took a shower. Came back and there was a nice amount of loot for me.

Now because its scaled you will usually get some items, I did not get anything nice, but i made a few plat out of it. My main problem was that my heros could not kill all of them so i put them just outside the celestial spawn range so only half of them would argro my heros. Anyways any other ideas similar to this???

So this may not be Witte's idea of a more fast and efficent farming build but it is a way to make some money.

scottbigboy · Apr 20, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

r.i.p. Guild Wars

clawofcrimson · Apr 20, 2007, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witte Was

"Loot now scales according to party size"

-GuildWars.com

Farming will never be dead. We get less loot? We have to farm more efficient finding faster and better ways to make money. I take the challenge.

You all should read this... over and over... coming from the man that gave us so many solo builds...

Koning · Apr 20, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18

But I don't think those new age farming builds will be solo...Simply not rewarding. At least not in normal mode. And from what I've heard hard mode has the same loot system, although they drop better items. That's the only chance for solo, otherwise I only see future for groups.

(still need to test more places

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